Predestination, Part One
On a forum [http://www.heedtheprophecies.com/theunderground/] I got into a discussion with them on theology, particularly one topic, predestination. So, I decided to make a post about what I think and believe about this topic.
Being that I believe in predestination, I will only post why I believe in it, and not the arguments against, that's your job to do through the comments. So, if you don't know, predestination is the belief that before God created the world, He knew who would come to Heaven, and that only those who He chose will go to Heaven. So, first off, I'm going to give a few verses that support this:
- 29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Romans 8:29-30
- 5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:5
- 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11
Note that all of these verses are King James Version and have been copied and pasted from the internet, but not before I looked it up in my Bible and checked them word for word, so these verses are accurate.
These are the verses I could find on so short notice. It is obvious to me from these verses that God chose His people from the foundation of the earth and it is not by our choice but by His Will that we are selected. While some may say that it is unfair that God chooses some and not all, I think it is unfair that we are not all condemned to hell and that God was merciful and selected some people to go to Heaven with Him. "For all fall short of the glory of God", none of us should be allowed to go to heaven, because we are sinful by nature. Now I am not saying that God will turn anyone away that wishes to accept Jesus into their hearts. No, it is my belief that God will not turn away anybody that desires Him. But I also believe that no one will have that desire except if God has put it in them, which means, only those that He chose at the founding of the world will have that desire to follow Him, so no one that has not been called by God will will ask for Jesus to enter their lives, and so that argument is not accurate.
If you do not agree with what I have said I encourage that you comment, but for this post I ask a few things: First, please have at least one verse to back your argument(you may use the same verse if you choose to comment again) and please make sure it is accurate, word for word, second, please stay strictly on topic about Predestination, whether it be pro or con, and third, please use proper grammar and spelling, it's hard to take a discussion/debate seriously when people aren't using proper spelling.
Part two coming soon, in that post I hope to debate some of the questions and arguments of predestination as well as have more verses to back it.