tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post2947759095153200687..comments2023-02-23T04:51:05.763-05:00Comments on The Narrowing Road: TheologyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03810063271700680848noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-64377397516276883042010-02-10T13:46:53.721-05:002010-02-10T13:46:53.721-05:00Random Dan,
The Bible does not teach predestinati...Random Dan,<br /><br />The Bible does not teach predestination. =D Some people say it does, but it doesn't. In that case, I'm under no obligation to accept it as fact.Madelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07583711298417280788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-1692163014608408912010-02-10T13:35:10.018-05:002010-02-10T13:35:10.018-05:00Good handling of this topic, Seth. Tough topic, m...Good handling of this topic, Seth. Tough topic, man. I would say that most people that argue against this topic do so from "human understanding" which is probably not the best since God says his thoughts and ways are higher than our thoughts and ways. Even though we may find it difficult to embrace, when the Bible teaches something, we would do well to embrace it anyway. <br /><br />I am always interested to hear differing viewpoints, but Jeremiah, i am not sure i understand your thought. Are you saying that God orders our steps after salvation but not anything leading to salvation? How has predestination been misdefined since the 1500s?Random Dan Thoughtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15073212689394859347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-42339327219365703192010-02-08T13:17:53.035-05:002010-02-08T13:17:53.035-05:00Sorry for not getting back to you Jeremiah, still ...Sorry for not getting back to you Jeremiah, still got school to do, but I hope to get to it later this afternoon/tomorrow sometime. I can answer your question SA though, by referring you to the beginning of my post. The middle-end of the second paragraph in this post explains it :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03810063271700680848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-16403427397996148522010-02-08T13:02:25.322-05:002010-02-08T13:02:25.322-05:00wait, what is predestination?wait, what is predestination?Silver Angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11177099369495190936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-55002752962351299732010-02-07T17:43:23.455-05:002010-02-07T17:43:23.455-05:00Seth, I think I will simply make a post on my blog...Seth, I think I will simply make a post on my blog sort of "in reply" unless you'd rather I kept it here. This is the address if anyone wants to read it: http://thestuffundermybed.blogspot.com<br /><br />It might be a tad long, so I don't want to clog up your comments. =DMadelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07583711298417280788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3977469546779421686.post-84271319152407220822010-02-07T17:00:57.987-05:002010-02-07T17:00:57.987-05:00If I may use your own verse, Romans 8:29, Paul say...If I may use your own verse, Romans 8:29, Paul says we are predestined to be conformed to Christ. John 15:16 says we were chosen to bear fruit. John 6:70 says that Judas was chosen, but a devil, so we know that predestination isn't about being saved, but being servants.<br /><br />Predestination is real, but since the 1500's its been misdefined.<br /><br />Imagine that a man wanted to dig a giant hole. In order to dig that hole, he would need a lot of shovels, so he goes to a shovel factory and says, "I want to buy all your shovels, and I don't want to buy anything but shovels." If the factory owner agrees, they've just predestined all the shovels for the buyers use. Trees will have to be cut down to make handles, but he hasn't chosen which trees will be turned into shovel handles. In the same way, God does not choose which of us will become Christians, but he chooses the ultimate task for anyone who might become a Christian-serving and bearing fruit.Jeremiahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03603418666253708118noreply@blogger.com